[Thuban-list] Re: creating new/updated epsg projection list

Jan-Oliver Wagner jan at intevation.de
Wed Jun 29 23:43:32 CEST 2005

Hi Moritz,

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 03:25:48PM +0200, Moritz Lennert wrote:
> I need a projection which is not in Thuban's epsg list (epsg 3035),
> but it is in the list that comes with Debian testing proj.

probably it uses a newer EPSG version.

> However, the later is in the following format:
> <3035> +proj=laea +lat_0=52 +lon_0=10 +x_0=4321000 +y_0=3210000
> +ellps=GRS80 +units=m +no_defs  <>
> I can obviously retype the info by hand and then export this into a
> custom projections file, but I was wondering :
> - - whether someone had a script which translates the proj format into
> the thuban xml format

of course, I did not convert the stuff manually. :-)
See thuban/devtools/create_epsg.py

> - - whether it might be possible / desirable to create a direct access
> to the proj epsg file, i.e. to use this format instead of / in
> addition to the thuban xml format

this could be implemented indeed. On GNU/Linux, the file
should always be /usr/share/proj/epsg
but on Windows it might be anywhere else. So, in case
someone wants to implement it, it should be additional
rather than instead of.

> - - why the thuban epsg file contains less projections (is it
> outdated ?)

it probably uses the set of an older EPSG version.

> - - if it is outdated, what is the policy for updating it in Thuban
> cvs ?

well, here is point where it hurts. In fact EPSG is crap because
the occasionally drop entries with a new version. Thats why
we have the epsg-deprecated.proj file in Resources.
Updating should thus mean to analyse which codes are dropped
and then add them to the deprecated list.
Why is this important? OGC unfortunately decided to rely on
EPSG for SRS and thus some WMS servers might use EPSG codes
your new proj does not know anymore :-(
This happened e.g. for the Gauss-Krüger where I live (Osnabrück).

Of course, from time to time it makes sense to updated the epsg.proj


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